{"id":5816,"date":"2014-01-28T17:12:07","date_gmt":"2014-01-28T17:12:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/zukenblog.wpengine.com\/?p=5816"},"modified":"2023-05-12T14:42:22","modified_gmt":"2023-05-12T18:42:22","slug":"synopsyszuken-at-designcon-unique-ddr-capabilities-using-waveview-and-hspice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.zuken.com\/us\/blog\/synopsyszuken-at-designcon-unique-ddr-capabilities-using-waveview-and-hspice\/","title":{"rendered":"Synopsys\/Zuken at DesignCon &#8211; Unique DDR Capabilities using WaveView and HSPICE"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s a new blog post brought to you by Synopsys, focusing on DDR and SI using a combined Synopsys-Zuken flow.This was\u00a0originally posted by\u00a0<a title=\"Posts by H\u00e9l\u00e8ne Thibi\u00e9roz\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.synopsys.com\/analoginsights\/author\/heleneth\/\">H\u00e9l\u00e8ne Thibi\u00e9roz<\/a>\u00a0on January 23rd, 2014 on the\u00a0<a title=\"Synopsys Blog\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.synopsys.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Synopsys&#8217; Blo<\/a>g<\/p>\n<p>Over to H\u00e9l\u00e8ne&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>You may be tired of hearing only about Mixed-signal verification, so why don\u2019t we switch to signal Integrity? \u00a0Looking at the recent announcements at CES and Intel\u2019s expected release of server solutions using DDR4 memory later this year, I wanted to further explore this topic.\u00a0We had a little time ago a very successful webinar that showed in more details DDR capabilities that SI users have and are currently adopting using a combined Synopsys- Zuken flow. Because of our customer testimonies and their enthusiasm on those capabilities, I therefore asked the owners (Griff, Hany) to demo this flow at DesignCon at the ChipHead theatre (see link below) and to talk to us a little more. Our Synopsys WaveView expert Manu V. Pillai is joining the discussion as well to provide more insights on WaveView, which is used by this flow.<\/p>\n<p>Griff Derryberry is an application engineer at Zuken. He focuses on helping customers realize high-speed designs using Zuken\u2019s enterprise PCB solutions.<\/p>\n<p>Manu Velayudhan Pillai has been working with Synopsys Spice simulation tools for over 7 years and currently responsible for Analog\/Mixed-signal environment and waveform tool WaveView. He is involved in developing DDR3\/DDR4 specific measurements and has been working closely with large companies demonstrating the unique capabilities of WaveWiew for DDR capabilities.<\/p>\n<h2>Q1. Griff, can you educate us on the main DDR challenges you are seeing from both a timing and physical design aspect?<\/h2>\n<p><b>Griff:<\/b>\u00a0\u00a0The main challenges that DDR poses from both timing and physical design aspects includes the need for creating serpentine traces so that setup and hold timing is achieved across a set of nets.\u00a0 This serpentining of traces consumes available real estate, making achieving timing closure more difficult to attain.<\/p>\n<h2>Q2. Can you please provide us more insights on the combined Zuken \u2013 Synopsys flow you will demo at DesignCon<\/h2>\n<p>Griff:\u00a0\u00a0The Zuken environment provides the design capture, constraint management, and physical realization tools to place and route the DDR system.\u00a0 The Zuken toolset creates the HSPICE netlist containing lossy impedances based on the trace widths and board stackup.\u00a0 HSPICE simulates the result and the timing is validated in Custom WaveView.\u00a0 We will show all aspects of this flow at DesignCon.<\/p>\n<h2>Q3. This capability relies heavily on Synopsys Waveform viewer WaveView . Which unique features does WaveView offer for signal integrity?<\/h2>\n<p><b>Manu:<\/b>\u00a0Custom WaveView has a powerful EYE diagram measurement tool, which performs basic measurements like height, width, aperture, skew, masks for both transient and STATEYE outputs. The DDR3 specific measurements like derate based setup\/hold, \u00a0tVAC, ringback violations, in Custom WaveView not only generates the reports but also pinpoint the violations in transient signal for further debugging. The built-in Jitter vs Time tool measures pulse-width, periodic, cycle-to-cycle jitter for SI applications. All the measurements can be automated using ACE-TCL scripts and run it in batch-mode hence saving verification time. Overall, a very intuitive and powerful solution.<\/p>\n<h2>Q4. There are number of companies showing off their DDR4 memory and Intel is expected to bring out server solutions that use DDR4 memory later this year, are you looking into DDR4 capabilities as well? On a more general scope, which challenges and new features do you see moving forward?<\/h2>\n<p><b>Manu:<\/b>\u00a0<a title=\"JEDEC\" href=\"http:\/\/www.jedec.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">JEDEC<\/a> has changed the timing and voltage measurements of DDR4 specifications. 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